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09/09/2010

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Jim Buck

Three goldilocksfish swimming around in a bowl.. One says to the others:

`If there is no God, how come: 1) The temperature in here is just right; 2) Food arrives regularly; 3) The water gets cleaned?

The second goldilocksfish (who happens to be a Professor for the Goldilocksfish Understanding Of Science) replies:

` It is probable that we live in a multiverse that contains an astronomically large number of fish-bowls. Most of those bowls will be completely fishless. The fact that we are here able to discuss the matter means that we are fortunate to live in one of the tiny number of bowls capable of sustaining evolved life.

The third goldilocksfish bursts into song: We' re here because we' re here, because we're here! `

Gregory

Thanks Jim,
An essential point well made, the corollary being that since we are here we might as well enjoy it. What could be more fun, after all?

masterymistery

Excellent post. presents a highly complex issue in a clear and easy-to-understand way. Reminds me of just how much I dislike "the Anthropic Principle" beloved of cosmologists and other horse thieves. Which, if one were feeling wicked, could be summarised by the statement: "we're here because we're here"

masterymistery

Sorry for double comment but I also wanted to raise the issue of how the word "universe" has come to be debased. At some point in the past, "universe" meant "everything". Now the word has been hijacked to mean much less than it once did, particularly since the advent of "multiverse", "maxiverse", "mega-verse" and "pocket universe". After all, if there are multiple universes, then they are not universes.

masterymistery at cosmic rapture

Puny Human

"Step into a Universe brimming with intelligence and design . . ." Yup, that's what we experience, and we don't need high tech equipment to show this to us. Why not honor and adore the intelligence and design we see? We don't need to explain it away. We don't need to make up a Super-Mono-God to explain it.

The universe, the er, the whatever the hell it is, exists in all its complexity and glory. I agree with you Gregory: let's party!

mark

Many thanks for your words and thoughts. What you say makes total sense to me. In most cultures, this energy is perceived at a fundamental level. As you say, Chi, Prana, Quantum machanics, even the Aether of pre-enlightenment science (I use the word "enlightenment" with regret in this context).

An underlying bottom up organising intelligence would seem, to me, a better explanation than a number of proposed theories. It intrigues me that a scientist claiming there is no God is guilty of ignoring a basic tenet of empirical scientific process. Namely, one can not draw a conclusion without unequivocal and repeatable evidence. It also concerns me, at times, how certain scientists bring an illogical zeal to the defence of their beliefs. Ultimately, certain things may prove unprovable, in the scientific sense, an example could be the quantum experience of the observer affecting the outcome of a process. Ultimately, it may be the case that faith and the power of thought has to be enough without trying to break things down to their constituant parts.

Gregory

Thanks for your comment Mark. One would have thought that chaos theory would have made scientists cognizant of bottom-up design in rainforests, crystals, weather systems and even our own neuron-filled brains. But it seems that they cannot recognize intelligence as being inherent in any but the last example, however clever the design.
Oh well...perhaps in time.

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